[SOLVED] geting update popup but no updates to install

[hellphy]

i have started geting notification that i have 100+ updates lined up but when i go install it it tells me its up to date. Is it just visual bug or am i missing updates ?

[stevef]

When (approx) did you last successfully update ?

It certainly looks like updates are due. To confirm, please open a terminal by pressing Ctrl, Alt and T together.
Then type or paste in this command to make the system check for potential updates.

Code:

sudo apt update

Enter your password if asked.

After the update command has run look for a line near the end indicating how many updates are due. It may look like

xxx packages can be upgraded.

Please report back how many packages are listed.

To try to reproduce the problem, can you confirm if you are still on Linux Lite 7.4 and

when i go install it it tells me its up to date

confirm exactly what you do to get this screen.

thanks

[hellphy]

i was away from pc for 3 weeks

when i run the command i get

153 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.

operating system is saying 7.4

to get the system is up to date i simply click the popup to start the updates it runs normally and then say its up to date
doing manual update at the bottom right with Package Update Indicator has the same results

[stevef]

Ok, so the reported requirement to update is genuine. As you were upgrading ok earlier it sounds like a possible issue has developed on your system with the GUI process to action the upgrade.
You aren't doing anything unusual and further investigation would need someone with more experience on what the GUI process does.

My suggestion at this point would be to try an update/upgrade from the terminal. It might show an error which will give a bit more insight.

If you want to try this, I would first use the System Restore Utility (timeshift) to make a snapshot of your current set up.
Then open a terminal as before and run these commands. Enter your password if asked and respond to the prompts.

The first command checks for updates while the second implements the upgrade. Each command also copies the screen output to a couple of dated text files which will be saved in your home directory.

Code:

sudo apt-get update | tee ~/"$(date +"%Y_%m_%d_%T")-apt-get-update.txt"

Code:

sudo apt-get upgrade | tee ~/"$(date +"%Y_%m_%d_%T")-apt-get-upgrade.txt"

Once the commands have run, review the text files, post the results back please.
Note that the 'apt-get' command is limited to existing packages - it won't install new kernels or new packages so we will have to check those later.

[hellphy]

Ok, so the reported requirement to update is genuine.  As you were upgrading ok earlier it sounds like a possible issue has developed on your system with the GUI process to action the upgrade.
You aren't doing anything unusual and further investigation would need someone with more experience on what the GUI process does.

My suggestion at this point would be to try an update/upgrade from the terminal.  It might show an error which will give a bit more insight.

If you want to try this, I would first use the System Restore Utility (timeshift) to make a snapshot of your current set up.
Then open a terminal as before and run these commands.  Enter your password if asked and respond to the prompts.

The first command checks for updates while the second implements the upgrade.  Each command also copies the screen output to a couple of dated text files which will be saved in your home directory.

Code:

sudo apt-get update | tee ~/"$(date +"%Y_%m_%d_%T")-apt-get-update.txt"

Code:

sudo apt-get upgrade | tee ~/"$(date +"%Y_%m_%d_%T")-apt-get-upgrade.txt"

Once the commands have run, review the text files, post the results back please.
Note that the 'apt-get' command is limited to existing packages - it won't install new kernels or new packages so we will have to check those later.

so afte running the commands i got error that there is something wrong with dependencies but it gave me suggestion to run "apt --fix-broken-install"
i did that and re run the second command which seems to have worked and installed most of the updates now when i run "sudo apt update"
i get:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
9 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)

[stevef]

Ok, perhaps the original dependency issue which recommended the 'fix-broken' action was affecting the GUI.
Did you use 'apt' or 'apt-get' ? You've haven't shown the output so it is all a bit of a guess. It is possible the 9 packages still need upgrading if you used apt-get.

Try running the GUI version of the update/upgrade and report back.

[hellphy]

Ok, perhaps the original dependency issue which recommended the 'fix-broken' action was affecting the GUI.
Did you use 'apt' or 'apt-get' ? You've haven't shown the output so it is all a bit of a guess. It is possible the 9 packages still need upgrading if you used apt-get.

Try running the GUI version of the update/upgrade and report back.

sudo apt-get update | tee ~/"$(date +"%Y_%m_%d_%T")-apt-get-update.txt"
Hit:1 http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable InRelease
Hit:2 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease
Hit:4 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Hit:5 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:6 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:7 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates InRelease
Hit:8 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-backports InRelease
Hit:9 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-security InRelease
Hit:10 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:11 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla...ext/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:12 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/obsproj...dio/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:3 https://repo.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite galena InRelease
Hit:13 https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla InRelease
Reading package lists...
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)
 thomas  ~  sudo apt update
Hit:2 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble InRelease                                                                                                   
Hit:3 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates InRelease                                                                                           
Hit:4 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-backports InRelease                                                                                         
Hit:5 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-security InRelease                                                                                         
Hit:6 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease                                                                                       
Hit:7 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease                                                                                               
Hit:8 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu noble InRelease                                                                                               
Hit:9 http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable InRelease                                                                                                     
Hit:10 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu noble InRelease                                           
Hit:11 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla...ext/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:1 https://repo.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite galena InRelease     
Hit:12 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/obsproj...dio/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:13 https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
9 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)

ran the GUI Installer here

 thomas  ~  sudo apt update
Hit:2 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble InRelease                                                                                                   
Hit:3 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates InRelease                                                                                           
Hit:4 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-backports InRelease                                                                                         
Hit:5 https://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-security InRelease                                                                                         
Hit:6 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease                                                                                       
Hit:7 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu noble InRelease                                                                                               
Hit:8 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease                                                                                               
Hit:9 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu noble InRelease                                                                               
Hit:10 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla...ext/ubuntu noble InRelease                                             
Hit:11 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/obsproj...dio/ubuntu noble InRelease
Hit:1 https://repo.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite galena InRelease     
Hit:12 http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable InRelease           
Hit:13 https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
6 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)
W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozilla.../InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'

 thomas  ~  127  apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done
inxi/noble,noble 3.3.34-1-1 all [upgradable from: 3.3.13-1-1]
language-pack-en-base/noble-updates,noble-updates 1:24.04+20260127 all [upgradable from: 1:24.04+20250724]
language-pack-en/noble-updates,noble-updates 1:24.04+20260127 all [upgradable from: 1:24.04+20250724]
libosmesa6/noble-updates 25.1.7-1ubuntu2~24.04.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 25.0.7-0ubuntu0.24.04.2]
zenity-common/noble,noble 4.0.1-1build3 all [upgradable from: 3.44.0-1]
zenity/noble 4.0.1-1build3 amd64 [upgradable from: 3.44.0-1]
 thomas  ~ 



checking the GUI it shows up to date now

[stevef]

I'm a bit confused - is it all working ok ?
Not sure what the 'http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable' line is.

[hellphy]

I'm a bit confused - is it all working ok ?
Not sure what the 'http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable' line is.

well it still showing 6 updates with sudo apt update and showing up to date with the GUI 
keybase is a cloud storage tool https://keybase.io/


sudo apt-get upgrade | tee ~/"$(date +"%Y_%m_%d_%T")-apt-get-upgrade.txt"
[sudo] password for thomas:
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Calculating upgrade...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
cpu-checker glib-networking:i386 gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386
gstreamer1.0-x:i386 ipxe-qemu ipxe-qemu-256k-compat-efi-roms libaa1:i386
libavc1394-0:i386 libcaca0:i386 libcacard0 libcue2 libdaxctl1
libduktape207:i386 libdv4t64:i386 libexempi8 libfdt1
libgstreamer-plugins-good1.0-0:i386 libgudev-1.0-0:i386 libiec61883-0:i386
libiscsi7 libndctl6 libosinfo-1.0-0 libosinfo-bin libosinfo-l10n
libosmesa6:i386 libpcsclite1:i386 libphodav-3.0-0 libphodav-3.0-common
libpmem1 libpmemobj1 libproxy1v5:i386 librados2 libraw1394-11:i386 librbd1
librdmacm1t64 libshout3:i386 libslang2:i386 libslirp0 libsoup-3.0-0:i386
libspice-client-glib-2.0-8 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-5 libspice-server1
libtag1v5:i386 libtag1v5-vanilla:i386 libtotem-plparser-common
libtotem-plparser18 libtracker-sparql-3.0-0 libusbredirhost1t64
libusbredirparser1t64 libvirglrenderer1 libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon
libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvirt-glib-1.0-data
libvirt-l10n libvirt0 libwavpack1:i386 libwayland-server0:i386 libwine:i386
libxtst6:i386 libxv1:i386 linux-headers-6.8.0-79
linux-headers-6.8.0-79-generic linux-headers-6.8.0-83
linux-headers-6.8.0-83-generic linux-headers-6.8.0-84
linux-headers-6.8.0-84-generic linux-headers-6.8.0-85
linux-headers-6.8.0-85-generic linux-headers-6.8.0-87
linux-headers-6.8.0-87-generic linux-headers-6.8.0-88
linux-headers-6.8.0-88-generic linux-image-6.8.0-79-generic
linux-image-6.8.0-83-generic linux-image-6.8.0-84-generic
linux-image-6.8.0-85-generic linux-image-6.8.0-87-generic
linux-image-6.8.0-88-generic linux-modules-6.8.0-79-generic
linux-modules-6.8.0-83-generic linux-modules-6.8.0-84-generic
linux-modules-6.8.0-85-generic linux-modules-6.8.0-87-generic
linux-modules-6.8.0-88-generic linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-79-generic
linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-83-generic linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-84-generic
linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-85-generic linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-87-generic
linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-88-generic linux-tools-6.8.0-79
linux-tools-6.8.0-79-generic linux-tools-6.8.0-83
linux-tools-6.8.0-83-generic linux-tools-6.8.0-84
linux-tools-6.8.0-84-generic linux-tools-6.8.0-85
linux-tools-6.8.0-85-generic linux-tools-6.8.0-87
linux-tools-6.8.0-87-generic linux-tools-6.8.0-88
linux-tools-6.8.0-88-generic msr-tools osinfo-db ovmf qemu-block-extra
qemu-system-common qemu-system-data qemu-system-gui
qemu-system-modules-opengl qemu-system-modules-spice qemu-system-x86
qemu-utils seabios spice-client-glib-usb-acl-helper swtpm swtpm-tools
tracker tracker-extract tracker-miner-fs user-session-migration wine32:i386
wine64
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following upgrades have been deferred due to phasing:
language-pack-en language-pack-en-base
The following packages have been kept back:
inxi libosmesa6 zenity zenity-common
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.

[stevef]

Thank you. That output is showing the legitimate reasons for 6 packages not being upgraded at this time.
2 package upgrades are deferred due to phasing - they'll get upgraded at some point.
4 packages are being deliberately held back by the OS.

So the system is as up to date as expected at this time